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Copernican's avatar

I don't particularly like Strauss and Howe theory on the basis that it's sufficiently vague as to apply to both nothing and everything. It encourages cherry-picking in terms of analyzing human behavior. With that said, this is an interesting observation.

There has certainly been a dramatic cultural bifurcation. I think that when looking at these scenarios in a long-term lens, one cannot ignore the effects of demographics. Historically, Strauss and Howe theory was built around a number of cultural and economic assumptions. One of the most important assumptions is an ever-growing economy and population. One could reasonably argue that the Millennial generation was the first to properly recognize that they live in a time that is culturally unprecedented for around 500 years: a shrinking population and economy. The demography plays a critical role as civilizations with older populations demonstrate less vitality and less propensity to change. This calls into question many of the assumptions of Strauss and Howe theory to begin with.

Further, demography will play a critical role moving forward. The "woke" portion of the millennial population is far less likely to pass on their beliefs to the next generation. The dissident right frequently see child-rearing as duty while the Woke left sees it as a nuisance. From demography alone, the Millennial dissidents and zoomer-Right are going to dominate cultural discourse. What we're observing is a cultural phenomena and strife quite similar to the appearance of the printing press and the protestant reformation. Coincidentally, also the last time that a major demographic collapse took place in Western nations (that time due to war and famine). This is a period of instability in human history that we're going through now... sufficient instability that more short-lived deterministic theories that may have held true for the previous half-millennium are inapplicable.

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Here's a downloadable link to The Fourth Turning.

https://archive.org/details/the-fourth-turning-an-american-prophecy-what-the-cycles-of-history-tell-us-about

It's one of the books I was thinking about when I wrote this, even though I linked to a Philip Dick book. Chose to link to Dick to send a message to certain politicians I know - though I doubt they'll get it.

https://craighutchinson.substack.com/p/covid-19-the-deadliest-fraud-ever

Good essay.

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